An example of pure filth. Courtesy of the Swiss.
Our good freinds at Blick have published a cartoon for the world to see, and I suppose, laugh. It depicts Turkey coach Fatih Terim being affixed to a Doner Kebab spit and being served by a devilish looking Hakan Yakin. Hakan Yakin as we all know is the son of Turkish immigrants who moved to Switzerland back in the day, like hundreds of thousands of other Turks who immigrated to Europe.
First off, this cartoon is blatantly insulting the Turkish immigrants in Turkey by depicting them as people who serve others kebabs. Secondly, Hakan Yakin is a Muslim and the cartoon depicts him wearing a red shirt with a cross in the middle. If it was meant to be a jersy they would have put the Swiss football associations logo instead. Thirdly it depicts Turks fighting other Turks and expects the audience (Swiss nationals) to draw sadistic pleasure in watching their enemies fight each other.
I hate to bring politics to the mix, but I would be failing in my duty if I did not. It’s no secret that anti-Turkish sentiment is very high in Switzerland and that a portion of Swiss openly hate their Turkish neighbors. Not all, but a defined amount that apparently have a voice. In contrast not a single Turkish newspaper or tabloid published anything offensive towards the Swiss people or the national team. Many Turkish fans who were there today at the match reported wide-spread anti-Turkish and anti-Muslim abuse. I wonder if Monseiur Platini and Herr Blatter will do anything about this. Probably not.
I find it very funny indeed when the whole world yells at the Polish for publishing anti-German cartoons but that publishing anti-Turkish cartoons has become accepted. I guess the best response to these cartoons is to crush the Swiss in their own home stadium, in front of their own fans, in front of their own cartoon publishers.
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^ Bitter Greek Alert!!
Posted from
Canada




this goes to ARMINIUS!!!
WE ARE ACTUALLY CONSIDERED AS EUROPEANS….
AND WHY WUD OUR RELIGION SUCK..THERES NO NEED TO BE RACIST HERE!!!
Posted from
Australia




musab: once again you prove to be a petty individual who gives importance to trivial matters.
I think that what happened at the end of the Istanbul game in 2005, all the things Terim said and all the Turkish attitude towards Switzerland is responsible for this stupid cartoon story.
I’ve lived in Switzerland for two years and found out that the Turks have no problems whatsoever (french-speaking magazine). I had a Kurdish Turk friend and she told me that her family had moved to Switzerland simply because living in Switzerland was a lot better than living in Turkey because society is more multicultural and more respectful.
In every Swiss town there are Turkish communities and, generally, there are no problems. The fact that Inler, Derdiyok and Yakin chose Switzerland clearly shows that Switzerland is open to foreigners.
I buy a newspaper (Libero) in Italy that has cartoons everyday and I don’t see a problem about that. Clichés about countries exist, do you think I like being called a cannabis-smoker (since I’m dutch) or a greedy swiss? No I don’t but I don’t make such a scandal about it as you do.
Kebab is delicious and is probably one of the most common fast-food meals in Switzerland, I actually find the cartoon funny and silly at the same time.
And please don’t mention Blick, it’s a silly newspaper. I would never want to read it, it’s like an english tabloid (go look at those if you want to find some insulting articles and cartoons).
If you want to read a serious Swiss Newspaper read “Le Temps” not that rubbish.
Pure filth? Don’t overdo it. I know you hate the Swiss, your analysis of the game proves it, but please don’t overdo it. Just keep quiet and thank the Goddess of Fortune for helping you in that way. It could have easily been 2-0 to us yesterday but we’re not a lucky team.
Now shut up and think of Czech Republic. After watching yesterday’s game you clearly have reasons to fear a big defeat and stay home just like us.
Posted from
Italy




@ Arminius
“Why are Turks allowed to participate in this Cup?”
because turkey is part of europe.
what about russia, isreal, armenia, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan..these countries are not in europe and they are part uefa.
Arminius football is not politic, football is football.
Posted from
United States




I wonder if Mr. the Moderator will do something about your post. Who’s whining now?
Posted from
Italy




I am hapy for win and i hope winner.iran
Posted from
Islamic Republic Of Iran




I am hapy for win .iran
Posted from
Islamic Republic Of Iran




go go turkey…….go crush them all. never mind anti turkish (muslim) things, they will never stop!!. a lot of peole are supporting u here in egypt and in the arab world generally.




Dear Jan,
Referring to your post on June 12th, 2008 at 5:22 am, you start off nicely and explain your thoughts and ideas on the situation which is appriciated. But as the readers get close to the end of your post it seems as if you got some problems yourself with the harsh language and putting words and actions to others mouths. (i.e. hating swiss even though there is nothing clear or evident in this post.)
And for the comment on the newspaper( tabloid, or whatever you might want to call it) I agree that it is not even close to be as bad or contraversial as the issue between the Germany and Poland however, being an unbiased observer, I believe this was the right decison and the wording since the “Blick” cartoon would not have surfaced anywhere else if it was not for this post. (at least I havent seen anything about it anywhere….)
Contraversy may sell newspapers but it creates problems for others in the long run and I believe this shananagan is just another gimmick to sell papers and create contraversy. (Why would anyone bring up the past when everyone is looking forward?)
Posted from
Canada




Jan: Why would I ever hate the Swiss? To accuse me of something as serious as this makes me very disappointed in you and I expect a full apology. Instead of saying such things you should be getting over it and congratulating the Turks and hoping the best in the future.
To say that there are no problems in Switzerland towards the Turkish, and by extension the Muslim populace there, is to complete misinform the audience. And you know that.
And finally, anyone who watched the match knows that Turkey completely outplayed the Swiss. The Turks had far more chances to score and were the better looking team. This is football, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Kuhn himself said that the Turks are a stronger team. The Turkish victory is not a surprise.
Posted from
United States




Oh I really apologise! You article (and general attitude) is really Swiss-friendly, wonderful, I appreciate it. Had the Turk media made a cartoon about the Swiss I wouldn’t have written an entry about it, I wouldn’t have bothered at all. Just look at the comments above, do you like what people wrote (either anti-swiss or anti-turk) because of your pointless post? How about writing an analysis of the game and talking about football, not tabloids and imaginary racist issues in contemporary Swiss society?
I guess that Turkish Tv’s are the only one saying Turkey deserved because from what I’ve heard, the Italians, Dutch, Germans and French thought that Switzerland was the better team and that a draw would have been fair, if not a win.
I think you misunderstood Kuhn. It is obvious that Kuhn says Turkey was stronger, does that mean better? Kuhn and all the players said that they could have easily defeated Turkey yesterday since they played a lot of better and enjoyed total control of the game in many situations.
And concerning the Turkish population in Switzerland I’m obviously not saying that the Swiss bring flowers to the Turkish doorsteps but chatting with Turks at kebap places they all told me they were glad to live in Switzerland and that they had a good relationship with their Swiss customers. The fact that there was such respect before the game between Swiss and Turks proves that you’re openly exaggerating. You speak as if the Turks were in ghettos and that the Swiss naziskins were constantly harassing the local communities.
I think you owe me apologies.
Posted from
Italy




Jan: You simply don’t understand it do you. Your fanaticism has completely blinded you. You are the one who’s turning this into Swiss vs Turk. If you read a newspaper published by the Turkish community living in Switzerland you will find enough proof of Anti-Turkish feelings present in a very small but as we see in this cartoon, very vocal group.
I don’t care about what other people saw, I care about what I saw. And what I saw was a Turkish team which dominated gameplay until the Swiss goal and the rain. The second half involved the Turks playing inspired football and getting the two goals they needed. It’s just that simple.
Kuhn said that Turkey was the stronger team. I NEVER said that Kuhn said Turkey was the better team in the match. Stop putting words in my mouth.
I’m very glad that people are discussing this topic. I think it’s hypocritical when the whole of Europe scolds a Polish newspaper for publishing anti-German cartoons but no one (including you) cares about a Swiss rag of a paper publishing anti-Turkish cartoons.
All you had to do Jan was say “Hey Musab, sorry that you feel this way about this cartoon. I agree it is insulting towards the Turks. Good luck in the future” But no. You had to defend this racist little rag. Just shows us more about you.
Im not going to reply to anymore of your comments Jan. You can write whatever you want at this point, It’s apparent that your fanaticism is just too much for me to handle.
Posted from
United States




So I’m the one putting words in your mouth?
Do you think I defend this stupid tabloid?
No I despise it, but considering most human beings are lesser creatures who give importance to such trifles, I don’t really write a whole post about it like you do.
How about your blindess and questionable subjectiveness? Turkey dominated gameplay. Only comment I make: haha.
You don’t want to answer my comments good riddance!, no one asked you to intervene in the first place anyways.
Posted from
Italy




musab: I totally agree with your thought. It is funny how it works one way only and not the other.
jan: the game was so sweet it would be worth it to watch it again.
Game Control> definitely TÜRKIYE
best face expression> swiss coach after game was over LOL
Posted from
Germany




This is wow… Jan by your nick you are supposed to be this sweetheart a soul… at least thats what it means in Turkic… but seriously I feel as if you hate Turks. I mean why can’t we discuss this issue? I’m very glad that Musab brought this issue up! otherwise i wouldn’t know about this situation and you know it’s ok for us to know what’s going in this world.
About the match… the whole point is that Turkiye won! Fortunately or unfortunately but Turkiye won! So lets stop this pointless argument on who is better since its over at this point.
But I would say that Turkiye did ok… but could do waaay better.
PS Jan i dont think you should write things that you don’t know. you don’t know why those Turkish players Yakin, Derdiyok, and Inler played for Swiss team so i don’t think you should be making any statements about it.
cheers
Posted from
United States




Go Turkey Go..




turkish side deserv the victory no doubt.
game fist half first quarter turkish side had good chances… when the rain starts,swiss side gets chances aswell goal by hakan yakin…
than second half started withoit rain, and turkey start to dominate game at entire area of the pitch. arda were the man of the match at second half period. turkey worked hard at the pitch in the second half, with good tactical and critical sub change by turkish coach, worked very well.
and turkish side minute by minute control the game,, swiss did counter attack at secnd half. thats all.
at the end; turkish side find a sweet winning goal by turkish diamond arda turan.
congrats to the turks .
Posted from
Japan




thanks




go turkey go… u guys are playing passionate soccer.the islamic world is behind u..indian muslims are behind u… rock the world……..
Posted from
Australia




I think you’re making this whole cartoon thing way bigger than it is. If people would just not take those cartoons so serious and just ignore them if you don’t like it nobody will care about it. I have absolutely nothing against Turkish or Islamic people, the people in my street were ecstatic tonight when Turkey won and I’m happy for them, but when I read this blog I can’t help but feeling annoyed. By constantly screaming ‘people are always mean to Turkish/Islamic people’ and feeling attacked and misunderstood, you’re not making anything better. A cartoon in some stupid magazine or newspaper or whatever is something to ignore. There are always going to be people that like to offend people and try to get them to react. Don’t give them the satisfaction of doing exactly what they want you to do, but be the better person and ignore it and just celebrate with everyone who wants to. Then everyone will feel more united in stead of separated by religion for instance.
I’m criticising the way you react, because I think your not doing yourself a big favour this way. I don’t think you are bad people or stupid or whatever, I’d say this to my sister who is easily offended too, because I wish everyone the best and don’t like to see them being unhappy. Jan is expressing his view and you don’t have to agree with him, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and there is no need to start calling people fanatics just because they don’t agree with you.
Posted from
Netherlands




You are misunderstanding my point. What im trying to get across is that I don’t think that its fair when the whole of Europe yells at two Polish newspapers because of their anti-German cartoons while no one cares about a Swiss newspaper publishing racist cartoons against Turks.
Posted from
United States




“Maybe the world just thinks that that cartoon is not even worth the energy and attention, because it’s to ridiculous to be taken seriously by anybody.”
And it’s not only cartoons that that applies to
Posted from
Netherlands




This forum is closed. Any further comments will be deleted.
Posted from
United States




Attn: Arminius
As a few seemingly mentally-challenged individuals insist on being ignorant racists I thought of clearing up the air and providing a little enlightenment: 1). Turkey is considered a ‘Southeast European Country’ and is much closer to anythin European than the Southern Greek Cypriot Administration, 2). As for your comment on Turkey’s religious faith coexistence and tolerance are what you ought to be trained on
3). Turkey has proven to be ’superior’ against Switzerland, the Chezh Republic and lastly Croatia.
May all the Turcophobes eat their hearts out?.




Turks are nor geographically, nor officially (beaurocratically) European. End of Story.
Posted from
Australia


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